Fireside Chat with Alex Azar and Matt Wallach

Veeva Systems Inc

@VeevaSystems

Published: August 24, 2017

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This fireside chat, featuring Alex Azar (former US President of Eli Lilly and former Deputy Secretary of HHS) and Matt Wallach (Veeva Systems Inc.), provides an in-depth discussion on the major commercial, operational, and regulatory trends impacting the pharmaceutical and life sciences industries. The conversation centers on the evolving role of the pharmaceutical sales representative, the necessity of integrated customer engagement strategies, the organizational shift toward Key Account Management (KAM), and the critical need for digital transformation in content management and regulatory approval processes. The speakers leverage their extensive experience in both commercial leadership and government regulation to offer a unique, actionable perspective on optimizing pharma commercial models in a digitally disrupted and highly regulated environment.

A central theme addressed is the "death of the pharmaceutical sales rep," which Azar argues is "greatly exaggerated." While acknowledging the continuous decline in access to physicians, he maintains that the sales rep remains the highest ROI tactic for many brands, emphasizing that the personal relationship is still the foundational linchpin for building other capabilities. However, this reliance on the rep must be supplemented by sophisticated digital engagement. Azar shared a specific experiment where his team targeted "white space" physicians (those never called upon by a rep) who were in the lowest tier of brand advocates. By employing a 360-degree interaction package—including peer-to-peer videos on platforms like Medscape and WebMD, direct mail, and email—they were able to convert 18% of these physicians to the top tier of advocacy within six months. This demonstrates that while digital engagement is highly effective, its maximum potential is realized when integrated around the foundational rep relationship, rather than replacing it.

The discussion then pivots to the organizational challenge of implementing Key Account Management (KAM). Azar differentiates between behavioral KAM (which he believes all effective sales professionals already practice by building long-term, value-adding relationships) and organizational KAM. He described a successful organizational structure modeled after the US military's approach to a theater of operations. In this model, a dedicated major account leader is placed in charge of a geographic or system "theater," pulling together various functional strands. This team included sales reps, dedicated medical staffing for appropriate interactions, and payer major account personnel, all focused on the customer's needs rather than internal brand silos. This integrated approach dramatically increased internal engagement and external customer satisfaction, as the company organized itself around the customer system.

Finally, the conversation tackles the major impediment to digital competitive advantage: regulatory processes and content management. Azar identifies the industry’s inherent risk aversion and outdated compliance systems as the bottleneck, noting that the speed at which companies can analyze content consumption and distribute compliant materials is crucial. He specifically highlighted the pain point of modifying digital materials through legacy, paper-based approval processes, where the slightest change necessitates a complete rework. He praised the transition to Veeva Vaults, noting that it improved compliance, provided a better system of record, and significantly boosted the engagement and satisfaction of the marketing, regulatory, medical, and legal teams involved in the material approval process. The chat concludes on a highly optimistic note regarding the current golden age of pharmaceutical innovation driven by genomics and molecular understanding of disease.

Key Takeaways: • The Sales Rep is Not Dead, But Evolving: The pharmaceutical sales representative remains the highest ROI commercial tactic; however, declining access necessitates supplementing the rep relationship with robust digital engagement strategies. • Digital Engagement Maximizes Rep ROI: Digital interactions (e.g., peer-to-peer videos, targeted email, direct mail) are highly effective in converting low-tier or "white space" physicians, but they function optimally when integrated as a 360-degree package built around the core rep relationship. • Quantifiable Digital Conversion: A specific case study showed that a multi-channel digital engagement strategy, targeting physicians who had never seen a rep, successfully converted 18% of the lowest-tier advocates to the highest tier within six months. • Key Account Management (KAM) Requires Organizational Restructuring: Effective KAM goes beyond behavioral selling; it requires an integrated organizational structure where a major account leader commands a cross-functional team (sales, medical, payer relations) focused on the customer system, mirroring a military theater command model. • Integrated Teams Boost Engagement and Satisfaction: Implementing an organizational KAM structure, where teams are organized around the patient and customer rather than internal brand silos, dramatically increases internal employee engagement and external customer satisfaction. • Regulatory Processes Impede Digital Competitive Advantage: The single biggest impediment to leveraging digital content and speed is the risk-averse nature of the regulatory approval process, particularly the use of paper-based workflows for modifying digital materials. • Need for Digital Regulatory Transformation: Companies must transition away from legacy content approval systems that require complete rework for minor digital changes, adopting modern platforms that streamline compliance and provide a robust system of record. • Veeva Vaults as a Compliance Solution: The adoption of modern systems like Veeva Vaults was cited as a successful transition that improved compliance, enhanced the system of record, and significantly increased the satisfaction of regulatory, medical, and marketing teams. • Focus on Customer-Centric Planning: Successful KAM involves sitting down with the customer system and conducting mutual account planning to determine what the customer needs from the pharmaceutical partner, rather than organizing solely around the company’s internal needs. • The Golden Age of Pharma Innovation: The industry is entering a revolutionary period driven by the fruits of the human genome project, enhanced understanding of molecular disease, and the ability to custom-design molecules, shifting the focus from "will it work?" to "does it work without off-target effects?"

Tools/Resources Mentioned:

  • Veeva Vaults: Mentioned as a solution for content management, regulatory approval, and compliance tracking.
  • Medscape: Cited as a platform used for distributing peer-to-peer videos to physicians.
  • WebMD: Cited as a platform used for distributing peer-to-peer videos to physicians.

Key Concepts:

  • White Space Physicians: Physicians who have never been engaged or called upon by a company's sales representatives.
  • 360-Degree Interaction Package: A comprehensive, multi-channel approach to customer engagement that integrates various digital and traditional tactics (email, direct mail, videos, rep visits) to surround the customer.
  • Organizational Key Account Management (KAM): A structural approach where cross-functional teams (sales, medical, payer) are led by a single account commander and organized specifically around the needs of a major integrated health system or customer entity.